Author Topic: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase  (Read 9164 times)

Derek Cohen

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Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« on: October 27, 2015, 11:15:35 AM »
OK, this is not American period furniture, unless you consider Perth, Australia a colony of the USA, and that a contemporary bombe is still traditional design  :D

This has been a complex build so far, and I am now at the point of fitting the drawers. This is what I have. The wood is Makore. (complete build: scan to Lingerie Chest: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/index.html)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Furniture/Linergrie%20Chest/Drawer%20Runners%204/16a_zps8yoztsdz.jpg

The plan is for bow fronted drawers (in Jarrah). The bow is shallow (drawer front is 22mm thick) ...

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/PreparingForTheDrawerBlades_html_34e7cb7c.jpg

.. and something like this, but curve on the sides and be coped into the carcase ...

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/LingerieChest1_html_75c0172b.jpg

I thinking that the upper drawers can be built oversize and shaped to fit. However the lower drawers will slope more, and this will affect the thickness of the side boards (quarter sawn Tasmanian Oak - looks similar to White Oak).

Ideas and suggestions on how to build the drawers to fit at the sides?

Regards from Perth

Derek
« Last Edit: November 07, 2015, 07:55:14 PM by Derek Cohen »

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Re: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2015, 10:42:03 PM »
Well, no replies.

Perhaps this may help to get some input: I have written up, and completed, a practice run of one drawer here:

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/DesigningTheDrawers.html

Comments are welcomed.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Nice work!
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2015, 09:25:53 AM »
As always!  Thanks for posting.

Tony

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Re: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2015, 10:17:39 AM »
Derek,

Great job. The construction issues that you were dealing with is way too complicated for most people in the world. It is also very difficult to explain the process with just words, since some of us are visual learners.

I have read your post, great job. Thank you for sharing.  The methods used are pretty much what I would of done.

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Derek Cohen

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Re: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2015, 08:46:33 PM »
Thank Tony. Thanks Freddy - it is helpful to get confirmation that what is planned is not inefficient.

I am interested to know how you would make the groove in the drawer front for the drawer bottom? Score and chisel? Power router?

Regards from Perth

Derek

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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2015, 11:50:09 PM »
Curved fence clamped on the router table and a 3 wing cutter with bearing is how I would of cut the grooves in the curved front.  Or you can put a curved base out of wood on a laminate trimmer with a hole for the router bit.  Or you can scribe and chisel groove, and clean up with router plane.  All are good options. 

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Derek Cohen

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Re: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2015, 09:20:37 AM »
Thanks Freddy. The router table seems the best option.

I have come up with a idea that will simplify the half-blind construction.

If you recall, the curve requires that the tail board have angles at the baseline and end.

It occurred to me that I would not need to angle the baseline - which is required for a gapless fit - if the pin area is squared (rebated) first. That would make it easier to ensure the join is tight in that area.

Regards from Perth

Derek


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Re: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2015, 06:56:45 PM »
Derek, Thanks for the post of my Bombe Chest on your site.  I looked at your process and it is pretty much what I would have done. Here is a link to my site on an oxbow chest with curved front drawers. Hope it helps. http://davidboefffurnituremaker.blogspot.com/2015/05/cherry-oxbow-chest-hand-cut-drawer.html
The Bombe Chest was a real challenge.  If you want to talk about it more, you can contact me at dboeff@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2015, 10:01:07 PM »
Thanks David! That's exactly what I plan. Very helpful to see it being done.

You have a great site, and I have spent a good time looking through - not sure how I missed this article.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Re: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2015, 10:59:30 AM »
Here is the next chapter in my lingerie chest build: the drawers. Just two of eight so far. I cannot believe how long each one is taking! Hopefully I shall speed up as I now understand what is needed.

I did promise to post once I had a few done. I shall not get back to the build for about a month as we are off to the UK for a few weeks.

For those who just want the details, the link is: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/BuildingTheDrawers.html

These are compound angled drawers, with a bow front and angled sides. There are flush beaded slips, amongst the details.

For those who just want a progress picture, this is for you ...

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/BuildingTheDrawers_html_56361802_zpsdcrxgzwa.jpg)

(The carcase is Makore, a West African hardwood, while the drawers fronts are Jarrah)

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Re: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2016, 12:02:38 PM »
Completed drawers..


Regards from Perth

Derek
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Re: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2016, 11:21:47 AM »
Just completing the thread - this is a contemporary piece and does not belong on this forum. Still, many of the techniques borrow from the past, and may be useful to someone.

The full build is here (scan down to Lingerie Chest): http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/index.html

Completed chest ...

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Re: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2016, 09:38:02 PM »
I say it belongs. This is 21st period and we are all about period period period. The piece came out stunning.  I believe English and French Furniture belong here.  Where do we think furniture was first made. Not here in the US of A. I think of it as the society of period furniture. Bring in all the Krenovian, Maloof, Arts & Crafts, Art Deco, Victorian etc.

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Re: Fitting bow front drawers to a curved carcase
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2016, 08:04:13 AM »
Thank you Freddy.

Regards from Perth

Derek