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Scots Irish
« on: March 17, 2010, 08:41:37 PM »
With an Irish background what might be your favorite Irish-American piece of furniture?

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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2010, 08:46:28 PM »
Anything that'll hold a pint.

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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 10:37:42 PM »
I had a friend ask that I pour a pint of Jameson over his grave when he passed. I asked him could I drink it first. This is a poor attempt at humor.

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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 10:59:37 PM »
Jeff, I'd say it was a good attempt at humor- made me laugh anyway. I can't imagine that General Washington would have said anything like it but he might have been too busy to crack a joke. To answer your subject line, my favorite piece of furniture by a Scotsman was made right here in Ol Virginny by Robert Walker, namely the tea table at Stratford Hall, although his table in MESDA is worthy of a toast as well. I don't have an Irish-American example but would like to hear of some examples also.
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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2010, 07:17:01 PM »
Why is scots-irish often referenced in history texts?  Why weren't there any scots-english or english-irish?

I live in Ontario and this is often referenced in local architectural literature about the early stone homes around here.  It's always scots-irish, never just scots or irish alone, and never scots-english or some other combination.

I know I'm drifting off topic but I've always wondered about this.

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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2010, 08:14:56 PM »
I think it is similar to the term non-white. Maybe it has something to do with the kilts and bagpipes. You will notice that they are always separated when it comes to describing whisky as in Scotch Whisky or Irish Whisky. No one sells Scots-Irish Whisky.
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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2010, 10:02:15 PM »
Herman, I wish I had an answer. I am always happy to celebrate all of my ancestors and if given the chance yours also. There is an early Irish homestead/fort for sale outside of Winchester Virginia built over the head waters of the Opequen Creek which flows into the Potomac River. With the architecture you are talking about does the second story have a canterlevered overhang. The L in my name is for Little

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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2010, 10:11:05 PM »
A gentleman by the name of Roger Davis told me they were Protestants (Calvinists in this case) and pointed me at Wikipedia which states,

"Scotch-Irish (the historically common term in North America) or Scots-Irish refers to inhabitants of the United States and, by some, of Canada who are of Ulster Scottish descent, immigrating from the province of Ulster in Ireland. The term may be qualified with American (or Canadian) as in "Scotch-Irish American" or "American of Scots-Irish ancestry".

In the United States in 2000, 3.5 million people claim "Scotch Irish" ancestry,[1] and are spread widely across the U.S., especially in the South, in Appalachia, and from Western Pennsylvania through Ohio. After 1945 many relocated to California and Florida."
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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2010, 03:50:29 AM »
LOL @ "Anything that'll hold a pint."

Dead funny

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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2010, 11:48:41 AM »
Mike,

You got part of it correct.

The double name signifies that the particular immigrants were forced first from Scotland to Ireland, and then from Ireland to America by religious persecution.  Seems when they got to a haven in Ireland, there was a subsequent change of official religion and they were again forced to move on.

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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2010, 12:01:31 PM »
Yes, the Scots-Irish were Protestants (primarily Calvinists) and immigrated (emigrated?) to the South (Va. & the Carolinas) prior to the mass migration of Irish Catholics to the North after the so-called potato famine of the 1840's (but that's another story).

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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 12:15:57 PM »
I have a linen press that I reproduced from an Irish original, does that qualify as Irish-American? It  is covered in fret work and some neat moldings. I will try to photograph it someday. I really, really like it, and it is the only piece of "foreign" furniture I have made. I do think that there is really a lot of Irish influence in the "American" period furniture.

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Re: Scots Irish
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2010, 04:01:23 PM »
Thanks to everyone that helped clear up this scots-irish business.  The question had been bugging me for 35
years and now I know the answer.

Herman