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« on: September 07, 2011, 08:35:22 AM »

I looking for a source for an owners stamp. I have the link to the makers stamp (http://mazzagliatools.com/BlumStamp.html). But I am looking for the style to stamp my planes as the owner not the maker.

Googling (is that a word now?) stamps comes up with rubber stamps and the like.
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 10:27:25 AM »

try Norcraft branding irons. they did mine. nice guy
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 12:59:15 PM »

Mazzaglia makes owners stamps.
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http://mazzagliatools.com/StampImpressions1.html
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 03:47:19 PM »

How do you tell the difference between a "maker's stamp" and an "owner's stamp"? What distinguishes one from the other?

Tony
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 07:15:14 PM »

Tony,
The difference is mostly the person who hits the stamp.
If you go to the links you will see that one displays Owners stamps and the other Makers stamps. Mostly semantics.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2011, 08:24:14 AM »

The link to mazzaglia tools shows makers stamps. I was always told a makers stamp presses the background and the name is left raised, where an owners stamp presses the name into the wood.

As best I can gather from conversations and books there was a distinction because one reason for joining a guild was cheap insurance on tools. In order to get insurance your tools had to be marked with your name, and there were rules about stamps with your name on them, one being that the letters had to be pressed into the wood.

here is an example of owners stamps. http://mjdt10.servername.com/WebCD/CDBrowse.php?Page=View&item=257708
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2011, 08:28:03 AM »

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he means that "maker's stamps," like Mazzaglia's, have a lowered background with raised lettering within, while "owner's stamps" have incised letters, such as you might get with the commonly available individual letter and number stamp sets.

I have a Mazzaglia stamp, and can attest to it's quality. I also consider it a bargain price. But I also have a few complex stamps with incised letters, from Harper Manufacturing. Check out the website at http://www.harpermfg.com/hm_products.html and follow the directions at http://www.harpermfg.com/Harpersteelstamps_knife.pdf

Harper can do pretty much any size letters, logos, etc. More pricey, but great work. I use mine on wood as well as brass.

I have no connection to any of these businesses, except as a happy customer.
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2011, 11:36:11 AM »

Very interesting stuff, Thanks guys!

Tony
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2011, 01:09:19 PM »

I just looked at my wooden planes. All of them but one have both the owners name and the makers name stamped with the letters below the surface of the wood. On one the makers name had raised letters. There are at least 6 different makers. The stamp that stamps the letters below the surface makes sense if you plan to stamp materials other than wood.
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2011, 04:19:21 PM »

"The stamp that stamps the letters below the surface makes sense if you plan to stamp materials other than wood."

Or if you don't like swinging a 3lb hammer at your fingers or above your work.

I use a stamp from Mazzaglia Tools. Chris Schwarz has a stamp that is the Dividers in his Lost Art Press insignia. It is pretty awesome.

I don't remember the name of the company that made it. I will in a few minutes.

Matt
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2011, 05:42:08 PM »

Matt, which size stamp do you have from Mazzaglia, the 1/16 or the 1/8?
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2011, 06:07:17 PM »

Mike,

Actually you can go either way in metal too.

I have stamps I use to hallmark silver that depress the background around the letters and numbers so that it shows as "raised".

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2011, 09:19:12 PM »

Roy Underhill's school is having a one-day class on making your own maker's stamp. It's taught by Peter Ross, who was a blacksmith at Colonial Williamsburg for many years.

So much to learn, not enough time.
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2011, 10:10:54 PM »

Karl,
I could see it in things like touch marks in silver. I don't have many silver tools, I was thinking along the lines of mild steel.
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2011, 09:14:50 AM »

Mike:
Using the depressed background stamp is no big deal in either mild steel or tool steel as long as you do it at forging heat.  Check out the Peter Ross touchmark on the foot of his holdfasts in this Schwarz blog entry: http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/workbenches/authentic-holdfasts-from-peter-ross

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