cockbeaded case construction

[John Cashman]

I had always imagined cockbeading to be the bead attached to the drawers themselves, but the beading attached to the carcase was just beading, not cockbeading. Is this a proper linguistic distinction, or do I have this wrong? I think there is some confusion in this thread, and it stems from whether the bead is part of the drawer, or the case.

[dkeller_nc]

"I had always imagined cockbeading to be the bead attached to the drawers themselves, but the beading attached to the carcase was just beading, not cockbeading. Is this a proper linguistic distinction, or do I have this wrong? I think there is some confusion in this thread, and it stems from whether the bead is part of the drawer, or the case."

There are extant examples of true cockbeading attached to the drawer openings of the case itself, "simulated" cockbeading on drawer fronts that is carved from the solid, true cockbeading attached to the drawers, and just about every other variation you can imagine.

[jacon4]

YEAH! I am goin with dkeller & john cashman on this one, what we need is a clear, concise little history lesson by someone who is familar with this feature as it is bit confusing, at least to me and apparently others as well.

"simulated" cockbeading on drawer fronts that is carved from the solid.... I have always called this "scratch beading", where the bead is cut/scratched into the drawer front itself.

For instance, one sees veneering of drawer fronts starting in american william & mary (1720 or so) furniture with single or double arch moulding on the stiles and rails (drawer blades) of the carcase  where as on later federal era furniture this cockbeading, moulding or whatever its called is on the drawer itself. Whats the deal here?

[msiemsen]

Here is what Merriam Webster has to say.

cocked bead - a bead that projects from an angle and is not flanked by quirks
cock bead - a bead in carpentry or joinery so molded or applied as to project beyond a surface

[John McAlister]

You all are about to get me mixed up now! Who's on first? John McAlister

[jacon4]

LOL, hey John, hot out aint it. Sometimes this stuff gets confusing and sometimes the terminology itself can confuse things because one guy uses this term & another guy uses a different term and before you know it, i am totally lost.

[FrederickH]

This has always been my version of a cockbeaded drawer. The beading sticks out 1/2 the diameter of the bead, is nailed on with cut brads, and the side beading has been cut/mitered to show the dovetails. Yes, I know that the brasses need polishing:)

[Jack Plane]

English and American nomenclature often collides, so I may not be of much help here, but 'cockbeading' to me is applied, quirk-less beading around drawers. A scratched bead, with or without a quirk, around the peripheries of drawers or drawer openings, is 'scratch-beading'.

[Jeff L Headley]

We also call scratch beading screw beading, because it is scrated in with the edge of a screw head where the sraight slot scrapes the groove.

[FrederickH]

This was done with a scratch stock, the rails/stiles mitered, and is what I think of as "scratch beading".

[John McAlister]

We also call scratch beading screw beading, because it is scrated in with the edge of a screw head where the sraight slot scrapes the groove.

OK Jeff! Now I am mixed up!
John McAlister

[Jeff L Headley]

Scratch bead on drawer front made with a screw.

[Jeff L Headley]

Screw beader

[John McAlister]

A picture is worth a thousand words!  Thanks Jeff.  I do understand now!
But I never would have without the pictures.
John McA.

[Johnny D]

I would like to confirm something with you guys help.  I've finished the drawers for my oxbow chest and am ready to shape the blades.  The blades have already been fitted and installed.  My question is:  Now I remove and work them, right?  As opposed to doing it with the blades in place.

Thanks


JD